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Mugabe or homosexuality at school? - Live debate

by Moyo Roy
26 Nov 2012 at 12:38hrs | Views

A gay activist in Zimbabwe said last week his organization, GALZ, has decided to use public health education, which is allowed at schools under reproductive health, as an entry point of teaching about its programs because the issue of homosexuality is treated emotionally and not as a health issue in Zimbabwe.

Mugabe is the only leader who has openly said NO to homosexuality - what are the chances of this happening if Tsvangirai wins presidental polls next year.

Do you think Zimbabwe should teacher school kids as young as Grade 6 about gay rights?. If not, at what stage in life should kids be taught gays/lesbians rights?


  • nkayi

    27 Nov 2012 at 10:16hrs

    where were these gays all these years? why is the teaching about these rights being done now. If this gay thing does exit we should be having older man without kid coz they are gay

  • Sijiye Tshangwaku

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:58hrs

    the only thing that i have supported Mugabe in is his stand againts homosexuality.its satanic.Zim must never allow such practices to take place.there is only one place for this nonsence its hell were the devil lives.anasiye thina ngobuzanga buka satane lapha

  • Anonymous user

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:57hrs

    @Kedzaify how can they have children such practice which is against nature how can it produce offsprings.

  • Bots

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:48hrs

    @Taboka i really like your views i mean i love them keep it up....i say homosexuality is against nature period.

  • kedzaify

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:42hrs

    no to homosexuality, if they need to teach it, that should only be done to their (gays) kids not to force everybody's innocent kids. God have mercy. you need to officiate the Sodom and gomola

  • Ignorant me!

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:34hrs

    If we can be taught at school about heterosexual sex, why the hack shouldn't we be taught about homosexual sex? Its only fair to do so.

  • Keith

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:29hrs

    Looks like pro-homosexual people are winning this one *giggles*

  • Ray

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:27hrs

    @Taboka People have died struggling to convince others that you have rights and freedoms. They didn't wanna hear that and had to shed blood. Its similar you don't want to realise that people have rights, maybe gays should now resort to terrorism, its the only way African understand something.



    God given right, gurl don't be an ignorant ass, your god dint give you shit, gvt gives rights and can take them away any minute. If you doubt me now run to the streets and speak bad about mugabe, and let's see whether your precious lil god will protect your rights! Good day to you

  • anti-christian

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:22hrs

    @Ray you are right brother. I applaud you for not agreeing with this stupid homophobia which is rampant here and I agree with you Taboka is ignorant



    By making reference to animal is not an illustration for relevance but rather to show that homosexuality is an innate condition of animals, human beings are animals, I hope your ignorant ass knows this. If your argument does anything it undermines your fellow anti-gay activist stance. They claim because animals don't engage in homosexuality then we humans shouldn't either. That was ma answer to that assertion.



    What is a higher law? Who sets higher laws?

    Myth? Gurl go read some books. You just ignant

  • Taboka

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:21hrs

    sounds like the homosexual curriculum to me Ray & I will protect my children from it. if it were natural trust me you wouldn't struggle so much to convince fellow human beings that you actually are normal, because we have the constitution to protect our God-given rights and thank you for noticing my verbose. have an awesome day "Ray Ray" :-)

  • anti-christian

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:14hrs

    Kudakwashe - christianity is a fundamentally flawed system, which whoops people into its parameters by fear of an apocalyptic higher power and supernatural dogma. The soon people realise that the better world we will live in.



    Most prejudices that. exist in society emanate from religion *u can debate this all u want but its true* religion plants ideas of unilateral standards of behaviour which are homogeneous. Needless to point out this propels exclusivity and extrimism as shown by homophobes. Any sober minded person would never be religious.



    You can pray for me all you like, let's see whether will change my views on christianity. Stop hating on homosexuals just maybe I will take yall seriously!

  • Taboka

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:11hrs

    @ anti-christian, animal homosexuality is a myth. We re defending a higher law & u re pinning ur hope on animal homosexuality to seek relevance& justify abnormal behavior-should we then conclude that filicide & cannibalism are according to human nature? coz tht's wat animals do. irrational animal behavior is not a yardstick to determine what is morally acceptable behavior for rational man!!!!!

  • Ray

    27 Nov 2012 at 09:07hrs

    @Taboka you the most ignorant, insipid individual I've met. Trying to be verbose won't guise your ignorance



    Taboka, sexuality and sexual variation is NOT a dysfunction but part of human anatomy. Normalization of heterosexuality and the privileges thereof make you think like that. Think outside the box, !



    Teaching children not to self hate, and not to engage in risky anal sex (as they do in boarding schools) what wrong is that?

    Teaching acceptance and tolerance, what's wrong with that?

    Teaching non-discrimination, what's wrong with that?

    Fighting ignorance, hate and oppression? What's wrong with that?



    Parents DO NOT have the right to indoctrinate children with notions of heterosexuality. Parent's role is to raise a child to be a better citizen, who is tolerant, accepting, clever and live their life for who they are not whom they parents want to be!

  • anti-christian

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:56hrs

    Am not going anyway, I have a right to be here inasmuch as you!



    What nonsense am I speaking? Read your books, church is just an evil instruments of oppression because it makes gullible individuals like you vulnerable! I don't blame Boko Haram in Nigeria when bombing churches, those institutions deserve to be wiped off!



    Let me quote Desmond Tutu "one day we will wake up and look at homophobia the way we do with apartheid" !



    Homosexuality exists in 246 species of animals, I bet you didn't know that. That answers your half baked argument that animals don't do it. Human sexuality is a spectrum not an absolute

  • Kudakwashe Murima

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:55hrs

    @ anti christian and mister, christianity and salvation is personal, just because one who calls him/self a christian does something wrong does not make all christians wrong. Remember on judgement day each one of us will give an account of what they did. God does not oppress anyone but if you chose to go against his will, deliberately and without repentance eeiish!!! may God have mercy on you. No to homosexuality

  • Taboka

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:53hrs

    This isn't abt hating homosexuality. these pple need our profound compassion as we re dealing with e very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life and sexual identity disorders. Gay rights=parents losing e right to protect & direct e upbringing of their children. Our children will be required to learn tht homosexuality is normal, equal & perhaps you should try it. We cant have this so you are right to say let 2 consenting adults do as they wish but dnt spread the sickness to our kids.

  • mukanya

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:45hrs

    you are wrong anti christian , that is nonsense we dont want gays in zim , go to sa or america , it is worse than pigs and dont spoil our children by teaching them bad things .

  • anti-christian

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:30hrs

    Christians have been at the forefront of all human oppression recorded in history, from slave trade, colonization, women oppression and now gay oppression.



    Don't the christians get tired of always getting trapped in the wrong side of history? Why is the church always involved in bad things under the guise of good? Surely yall should realise this by now! Wake up and say NO to christian unilateral oppression of minority!

  • Mister

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:27hrs

    Forward with gay rights ! Down with ignorance!



    You can't claim to fight for democracy and oppose gay rights. That is just counter intuitive ! All those who claim to fight for democracy, gay rights are part of that! Viva le gay rights, Viva equality viva non discrimination!

  • Ray

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:25hrs

    Homosexuality is a heath issue. The main reason African governments have failed to combat AIDS is because people are too ignorant to realise men are f**king each other dry out there! Galz must teach that sex is sex, and it has risks. If sex education is taught at school, then surely sexual orientation issues must be treated similarly!



    As for why they shouldn't be gay rights in the Constitution. I haven't heard one single proper arguments. As for Christians calling it a sin, why do yall act as if homosexuality is the only sin in the bible? Why not ban alcohol, smoking, pre-marital sex, women leadership? Ha . Hypocrisy only exposes the foolishness of Christians! Yall are bigoted hypocrites. What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their home shouldn't be your concern. State has no legitimacy to determine bedroom issues!

  • Jayden

    27 Nov 2012 at 08:17hrs

    I am black, gay & Zimbabwean! I was born gay & will die gay, whether some of you like it or not am here to stay.



    Many of you here are fools, most of your fathers, uncles and brothers by night go to GALZ offices to have a good time. We f**k with them. In the afternoon same people preach abti-gay, what a shame. Hate gays with all your being, bottom line it is an innate thing and you'll die hating and we will still be here...



    #QueerNation! Gay Rights in our lifetime a reality

  • Taboka

    27 Nov 2012 at 07:50hrs

    Let our children reach the age of majority to understand their sexuality and the socio-cultural implications of homosexuality. GALZ is grasping at straws, sadly desperate to the extent of wanting to brainwash our children. Morgan will hand over our morality on a platter in exchange for donor support. God help us. Let parents enjoy the right to raise and groom their children in the value systems we all know without interference.

  • Kudakwashe Murima

    27 Nov 2012 at 06:53hrs

    First of all Roy, the issue of homosexuality should not be a subject of discussion, its just like saying should murder, witchcraft be taught in schools, it is wrong and my answer is a BIG NO. I have commented on this issue a number of times using the word of God as the standard for life, homosexuality is not tolerated. I don’t hate or condemn gay people they are human beings like me, but I am against the practice as it is against God’s principles and creation.

  • Luba

    27 Nov 2012 at 06:30hrs

    Dont debate homosexuality with our President HOMOSEXUALITY is hell we want a clean country down with rubbish

  • Lewis Hlelani

    27 Nov 2012 at 05:08hrs

    To hell with the so called gay rights.zim wil remain a state isina ngochani.this is not america or south africa.to hell.

  • rply to Dena

    27 Nov 2012 at 04:19hrs

    Hd it not bn for MDC GALZ wld b dead

  • Dena

    27 Nov 2012 at 03:26hrs

    Why are you trying to juxtapose this question with Mugabe? Mugabe is on record of saying many things and doing the other things not even at night rakacheka nyika. GALZ has flourished to this extend under Mugabe despite him going about all over saying a lot of bla bla bla. We do not support gays but we dont want people who come here to smuggle Mugabe and ride on our emotions.

  • stavros

    27 Nov 2012 at 02:55hrs

    pliz do not contaminate our kids minds with teachings that are not recommended in their homes.Malawi was forced to adopt gay ryts in exchange fo aid frm the lost nd demented British govt.I say no to playing fo the wrong team

  • nkosi peter

    27 Nov 2012 at 01:25hrs

    how on earth should l bend 4 another man to poke my back think about it.its wrong biological,moral,religous etc

  • S zhou

    26 Nov 2012 at 23:45hrs

    Zvehungochani kwete muzimbabwe kana zvakadaro pamberi navamugabe

  • S zhou

    26 Nov 2012 at 23:36hrs

    A vamugabe

  • Noo

    26 Nov 2012 at 21:32hrs

    grace 6 is too young for children to be taught about gay rights at grade 6 a child can't understand their sexual orientation, they experiment a lot, so teaching them early might hurt them, i think later on in high school maybe when they can fully comprehend what they need, labeling and calling gays names will not take us anywhere they are there in society whether we like it or not, that's my 2 cents for the day, live and let live!!

  • mdawini

    26 Nov 2012 at 20:54hrs

    none of the above . Both are evil and the same . There must all go to hell

  • Khosi zhi

    26 Nov 2012 at 20:51hrs

    No to 2 evils.hating one does not mean liking another.2 evils will never make any right. Angifuni mina, ngiyafunga

  • Bongani

    26 Nov 2012 at 20:37hrs

    Zvinonetsa zvoda Mwari izvi fulstop

  • Zalaz

    26 Nov 2012 at 20:37hrs

    Js dont teach kids/anybody 1 hu nids/feels lyk gay/lesbian shud aproach the offices alone, dont bother yoselves finding ways of reaching kids coz i personaly can nw link it to satanism. Why do u hunt sum1 hu needs another dick 2 screw his or 2 sqeeze her pussy with another1, plz dont do that help those hu aproach yo offices fullstop

  • Zalaz

    26 Nov 2012 at 20:31hrs

    I don't think this thing shud be taught anybody, its js a natural feeling in an individual so js leave it 2 those consenting parties unless one reports it as an abuse. Why do u choose wat is sweet to sumbody whilst u choose yoz alone, that is being undemocratic. Hw do u know that gay/lesbian is 2 enjoy th dick/pussy?

  • Siwawa

    26 Nov 2012 at 19:40hrs

    Va mugabe chete

  • Mambo Juu

    26 Nov 2012 at 19:33hrs

    Ini ndozvandinodira VaMugabe chete zvokusatya kutaura pachena pane zvakashata pane zvaVaTsvangirai zvekusekerera nemadhodhi-nemadhodhi. Kunyanyonyengererei??

  • Tsuro

    26 Nov 2012 at 19:10hrs

    Hey Roy y shld we fret over wat the nxt bloke is screwing if it s btwn 2 consnting adults?i blve it shld nvr b anybody's buz if thr is no abuse involved.sodomy n rape ve long bin criminalised...wat is the beef wth a dude who finds pleasure in hs ass n strokin another bloke's beard...?morals....?that doznt wash...screwing an unconventional orifice wth equal participation frm the screwee is a matter of choice.

  • regina sibindi

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:46hrs

    Why doz de gay/lesbian group want to teach our children that which we don't teach them in our homes? Why in de fes place shud children be burdened with that which is not their ryts,for sure thoz are gay ryts!

  • Siwawa

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:38hrs

    the british colonized us and we have british mentality ,but sorry on this one

  • Siwawa

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:36hrs

    its spiritual blindness and biblical ignorance

  • Siwawa

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:33hrs

    to other countries even south africa ,its very normal . To me its nonsense

  • Zetie

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:32hrs

    To hell with the perverts who want to corrupt our kids. If Tsvangarai is 4 gays let him divorce his wife and go for the worse than dogs and pigs scenerio

  • Chitzman

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:31hrs

    No to bad teachings. UnGodly. God created man and woman saka mavakuziva kupfuura mwari, vana vasatani!! Haikona kuda kutikanganisira vana, to hell with yr homosextuality! Mugabe 1000 percent right

  • Tafa

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:30hrs

    Mugabe he right on this one magay kwete.Kuna Tsvangirai ukuramba uchida magay hatichakuvhotera.

  • Siwawa

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:30hrs

    mugabe is right on this . Don,t teach my kids nonsense . Ngumubhedo lo

  • Nyari K

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:23hrs

    So what do they really want to teach kids? is it how to be gay or how to live among straight people - on this one Bob is the way even if eseguge kakhulu

  • Thulani

    26 Nov 2012 at 18:10hrs

    Yes,Yes to Mugabe on this one only! Buzz off with Your Gay education.

  • GALZ

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:59hrs

    No contest here, Mugabe wins hands down. Pigs and Dogs know how to distinguish between male and female so we don't wants our kids not to be able to distinguish between male and female. GALZ must go hang, we must not have that sh*t in Zimbabwe. Morgan and his gay funders must go FCUK themselves not our kids

  • Mitsho

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:57hrs

    No to gays, what rights do they want to teach our kids,President Mugabe closed that chapter

  • Anonymous user

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:55hrs

    The undoudtable number 1 Heroe of Zimbabwe (Mugabe) is very right on opposing this stupid behaviour even Tsvangirai knows that this is stupid though he can't openly say it because he only wants to a man of good character (anongoda kuitwa munhu akanaka) and that is not a leader! Saka zvimwe zvese itai but musatidzisire vana matakanana akapusa kudaro.

  • chirhilele

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:44hrs

    Musada kutitanga handiti, kudzidzisa our children aout Gays and Lesbian. Wt kinda cultural Zimbabwe would that be. Of coz Mdara akura at 88 he is incapacitated jus like a 5 year old toddler, ngaaende. Bt I agree with him on gays. Kufemerana mugotsi bodo

  • Wilvern T

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:40hrs

    Earth are run red big Noo 2 gay nd lesbian rights Mdara should stay!

  • Japhet g.mangena

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:38hrs

    It mustn't be tought at all

  • Twin

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:25hrs

    Akomana ndinetya arume eganhi kunyenga pachawo baaaa, hazviite

  • Olga

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:18hrs

    Mugabe is right on this but he must go,no to gay rights

  • Olga

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:17hrs

    Mugabe is right on this but he must go,no to gay rights

  • zim

    26 Nov 2012 at 17:11hrs

    listen musade kuti tanga handiti ka, teaching our kidz about gays hee?? kufarisa kwamava kuita uku. kana tsvangirai achida kuona kuti zimbabwe yakazara mhata dzidzisai vana vedu izvozvo....

  • Mbonisi Juba

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:55hrs

    What right do gays want they must teach their kids at home. An they should live our kids alone. Mugabe must stay

  • zxaqa

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:53hrs

    iwe panavanhu kwana kana usina zvokutaura dont waste your time

  • stanley

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:53hrs

    Mugabe must go and also no gays and lesbians in our country

  • Fonyorai shava

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:52hrs

    Many people are getting into homosexuality because they get lots of money but in a country like zimbabwe where we have good morals it is unacceptable and it should not be taught in schools.Tsvangirai will definitely give in thats why many people prefer to be poor than kukukurudzira kusvirana kumukosho.ngochani dzinotoda kunamatirwa coz rinotove dhimhoni

  • manwesley@hotmail.com

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:49hrs

    Mugabe must stay. no to gay education

  • comrade panavanhu

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:48hrs

    Tsvangirai will never rule Zim

    Me as a 26y old I will go to the bush to fight for our legalcy

  • manwesley@hotmail.com

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:47hrs

    mugabe mustay

  • Moyo Roy

    26 Nov 2012 at 16:43hrs

    Lets Discuss!