Was is it fair for Oliver Mtukudzi as Guest of honor to speak in Shona through out his speech - Live Discussion

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@Tatenda true that!

Tuku has played in byo so many times and has never played his songs in ndebele but shona and no one has complained what if he does not have a good command for English in Zimbabwe you speak a language you understand most

@Moyo..I think for the future management should cater for wonku muntu..if in Mashonaland, a Ndebele translator ought to be there..if in Matebeleland again a Shona translator ought to be!!and for the future let's learn each other's languages!!Shonas must learn Ndebele and Ndebeles likewise!!

Let's not sensationalise a small issue here I live with ndebeles in gokwe jahana area vauyi kuno gokwe but meet a ndebele person he always speak in ndebele even among shonas but we don't complain because this is zimbabwe where everyone is entitled to speak his or her language of choice

Maida aite sei ndolanguage yaanogona world over vanhu vanotaura malanguages avanogona maorganisers aifanirwa kunge akagadzirira akaunza interpreter

kengibuze omunye umubuzo phezukwalo ovele ukhona, were the Harare guys wrong to complain that Byo pple did their acceptance speeches in isiNdebele

@Dzimiri ungalwi mayuyu!

most of you guys say it was alright but you are not saying it was Fair or Not fair to someone ongezwa isiShona

You Ndebele imbeciles never seize to amaze me, you pretend as if Bulawayo is in KZN. Adapt or go back mhani satani.

@Moyo..I am not disputing the fact that speaking Shona amongst a crowd where most of them don't understand shona was right..that was very wrong!!but Tuku did not invite himself there or organise the event..the organisers were supposed to make sure that there are translators!!Zimbabwe has Shona and Ndebele artists..Ndebeles and Shonas make Zimbabwe..and if people organise events and do not cater for translators, kuwrong lokhu!!

I see no problem here, is Shona not an official language? If Shona is an official language I see no reason why this question needs discussion. Problem is amaNdebele, they want to use isilungu or other languages when they can use their Ndebele. I have seen it, when there are 5 Ndebeles and 1 Shona guy, Ndebeles tend to use Shona for whatever reasons. So don't blame Tuku, Ndebeles must come out of their inferiority complex and also use their language whether in heaven or hell. Tuku was rite.

No matter hw hrd we try to pretend this problem wll neva end.ey hve been working wth ndebels 4 ova 33 years nt even once hve I hrd speak in ndebele wen ey campigng in BULAWAYO-umntwane nyoka yi nyoka /akusethusi..phambili ngoMthwakazi omuhle

Now u r talking Tatenda, the organizer did a blunder apa lawe uyabona handiti!

I really for once Ndebeles and Shonas would just love each other and try to learn each other's languages and customs!!I have so many Ndebel frens whom I teach Shona and they teach me Ndebele..we don't insult or call each other funny names or arrange gangs on each other..I am dissapointed in most comments that I read below..such hate and so many insults are cause for concern..its scary..tjo!!

They say learn 2 talk shona f u want 2 go 2 heaven,its better 4 heaven 2 stay lonely than 2 use Shona as my passport!Ndebele i remain simply Tuku Ndebele z a Zim Language so t was a must 4 u 2 talk in Ndebele in Matland coz know one will understand yo Shona simply!

Tuku wasn't even supposed to arrange a translator..he was invited to give a speech..the organisers were supposed to make sure the translator was there and not Tuku..its not his fault tht he can't speak Ndebele..and its not a Ndebele's fault either when he is not willing to speak Shona!!!

Thank you @Tatenda for pointing that out, no insults please guys

My question though..if a ndebele had come to mashonaland would s/he speak in english??or at least try to speak in shona..I am amazed at some arrogant fellows here who straight away go to call and insult Tuku in Ndebele..calling him names like dogs etc..the post calls for a reasonable and educated debate and not arrogant fools who quickly rush to insult and talk crap about Tuku..question implores people to comment on fairness and not to show stupidity by raining insults!!!!

@jojo do u think everyone understood what Tuku was saying? thats the question - if there is one person ongazwanga then it was not fair coz umtolikiki could have been used dont u think so?

There r 2 official languages in Zimbabwe, ChiShona & others. If Tuku chose 2 speak in the language of the majority, why worry about the rest(minority). Kana pane akarwadziwa nezvakaitwa naMukoma Tuku, Go Hang. We , as Zimbabweans cant suffer just becoz of foreigners.

Mr Bulawayo24 u r being unfair to us why r u raising it now when da guy hs alrdy messd up n gone inja itshayelwa lopho entshontshe khona kungasenani a lerson can stil be sent BAMBANI ONE if u cant bizani isupporters zeBosso they will show u how pple lyk Oriva r delt with its not too late umuntu cant come n screwup ur family n walk away njalo nje

@jojo I think u are missing a point here coz the question is "was it FAIR" and note that I also said "I believe he is free to use his mother language but he did so in the presence many artists and Bulawayo residents who could not hear or understand what he was talking about."

@jojo its a discussion for pple no dogs,hapana zvawataura,sicela ubuntu

He was supposed to speak in English

He's rude he must respect his fans coz they made hm who he is

Kusizani ukukhuluma ulimi ongalwazi kahle kahle.angiboni nkinga mina ngalokho okwenziwe ngu Tuku.

@Three Men On a Boat - r u telling me that if I speak Ndebele in Harare everyone will understand me?

Inkinga isekuthini amaNdebele bayasicindezela kakhulu eZim coz ungabheka most of amaNdebele bayezwa isiShona but bona kabezwa nex Ma ungakhuluma ngesintu use Harare uzwa bethi Taura nechishona hatizvi lakhona uzotshitsha ngoba usuke ungena oporption so loTuku laye kube kufanele ukhulume ngesintu ngoba uko Byo

@moyo roy that would have been an issue if he was speaking in a foreign language. Unless you are saying that Shona is foreign in Bulawayo then

@chasura, never lingawa ilanga lidojwe zinyoni

Mthoko wena ungahamba eHalale uzafika ukhulume isishona,ngoba thats the language for talking money,khangela abafowethu abase goli

@ Me,let's say ngabe ngumndebele okhulume ngesi ndebele eHarare ubuzozwa njani njengoba uthi ongezwanga its own baby, ubokhula ungenzi ingathi ukucabanga kunzima coz baningi abantu abangasizwa isi tshona

guys tuku aint mugabe so he cnt speak n ndebele nor english anoda rurimi rwaamai therz no nid to apologise y wud he nway fo wat speaking in shona aaah damn giys m forced to give health education in ndebele evrday of wch m nt comfortable speaking in ndebele

So the Harare guys who complained about Bulawayo guys using Ndebele beberongo yini coz they too bebengezwa isNdebele

munhu anotaura n any langauge yaada dai vacho vasinga nzwi shona vaka raiser objection during the speech zvaibatsira

@Three Men On a Boat Tuku should have told the organizer that he was going to speak in Shona and an interpreter wouldn't have been had to find

Absolutely nothing wrong with Tuku speaking in an ethnic language. The speech was powerful because he spoke in vernacular rather than in English.

Disappointed that this i even a subject for debate. let's celebrate our languages. and our diversity.

hey buddy we got 2 official languages n zim so he cn choose wch1 2 use f u ddnt gt wat he was saying dats yo own baby

what Tuku did is inconsiderable

He Tuku and the organisers of the event were supposed to have arranged for an interpretor, as much as he was comfortable with his Shona um sure some of the people couldn't understand what he was saying as we all know the majority of people from Byo speak isiNdebele.

even Mugabe himself speaks in Ndebele when hez in Bulawayo he spoke in ndebele at Nust graduation .then Oliver who do u think u a .u must apologize or dont bother to hold a show in Byo we wont suport u .like we did to Steve donki makoni

even Mugabe himself speaks in Ndebele when hez in Bulawayo he spoke in ndebele at Nust graduation .then Oliver who do u think u a .u must apologize or dont bother to hold a show in Byo we wont suport u .like we did to Steve donki makoni

Uphambanisile tuku, ubeyisivakashi so bekumele akhulume ngolimi lwalo muzi isindebele njengoba esazi, kufana nokuthi unga vakasha emzini ukwazi ukuthi bakhuluma thizeni limi nawe ulwazi uzokuthi wena ubakhulumise ngolwakho abangalwaziyo kufana lokuba bhekelela phansi at least ngabe ukhulume ngesilungu or ngabe ube hlanganisa

Witness Ncube on Facebook says "Bayasazi isishona lesindebele am[Some people] njengoba lami nginje ngiyasizwa ishona sakhona lesi[Some people] and most pple in byo are priviledged cos they undrstnd & speak mo than 1langauge."

Amby Ndlovuon Facebook says " The problem here is a denial of an employment opportunity for the interpreter. The same is seen in the continued lack of teaching in schools of minority languages as well as radio and TV."

Mkhululi Chimoio on Facebook says "Why should Mtukudzi know Ndebele if Minister of Education David Coltart, and many artists and Bulawayo residents who could not hear or understand what he was talking about don't know and understand Shona??? "

Munhu anotaura langege yanoda

UTuku uyasazi isindebele but feels comfortable when he speaks his home language isi korekore

He is very ignorant. Bigotry is only practised by the ignorant.

He shouldn't have done that at all costs , at least using English or Ndebele during his speech.

Amby Ndlovu on Facebook says " No....if so then he shld hv had an interpreter"

Witness Ncube on Facebook says "BYO is known 4 being the city where most langauges are spoken mtukudzi was okay 4 speaking in shona cos I guess he most comfortably speaking in that language"

Uma bemu interviewa egoli okhozini fm uyasibeka isindebele kumculo wakho ucula ngaso ngoba efuna imali, kodwa uma sekhuluma namandebele uqobo emi phambi kwawo akasazi, time is coming matHarare tym is here VUKA MTHWAKAZI

Do not you guys think there should have been an interpreter?

It's not.at all.the NAMA awards are a national event.more than 4 million Zimbabweans are not Shona and many still don't understand thenlanguage,worse the deep Shona he was using,Mtukudzi was immature,insensitive and maybe arrogant.he speaks english clearly and fluently and he just had LAN attitude problem.next time he must grow up.and even pretend to be national.somnon shona speakers were being punished for not knowing or hearing the language?the point is we must all be mature and accommodative

Manje wena chasura uma indebele wazi ukuthi sisemthethweni why ungamsoli ukuthi aka accomodatanga amandebele ngenhlonipho

wonke amamssge abhalwe ngesizulu are frm MBM

Kahle kahle a[Some people] ayasibona ini isindebele ukuthi sibhaliwe emaphepheni ka hulumeni why amandebele njalo yilo akhuluma isishona why wona amandebele angakhulumi isindebele ngenkani eshoneni noma selithi lona alizwanga ulishiye linjalo.

nothing wrong guys cause shona and ndebele are our languages for zimbas

Moto truly speaking you looking for nothing here. I believe he did something good and I can argue that there were among the guest who do not understand shona coz 99.99% of byo citizens are able shona speakers. So story apa. Takers netribalis mantra from you guys. I am from Darwin but am a fluent ndebele speaker and when am in byo I speak shona coz that is my identity then ndebele if the person cannot get what I will be saying period

What language was he supposed to speak,and is speaking any language ever considered as being fair?

Kuhava xo biha lahawani.

Ubhedile itHarare naye ngeke akhohlwa ngeke athande amandebele inzondo isegazini.uncela imali yamandebele uzonda amandebele

I think Tuku was wrong, in Bulawayo we speak ndebele not shona.

Hapana chakaipa apa

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