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What is a Ndebele? - Live Discussion

by Moyo Roy
07 May 2015 at 12:27hrs | Views
What is the difference between a Kalanga and a Ndebele?
What is the difference between a Sotho and a Ndebele?
What is the difference between a Nguni and a Ndebele?
What is the difference between a Tonga and a Ndebele?
What is the difference between a Venda and a Ndebele?
How about the difference between a Nambya and a Ndebele?
A Matabeleland Nyasa, Chewa etc and a Ndebele?
What is a Ndebele?
  • Admin

    07 May 2015 at 18:00hrs

    Thank you all for taking part in this discussion. This Live Update has been closed but you can still comment at the bottom.

  • SaMangwenya

    07 May 2015 at 16:31hrs

    Eqinisweni bakwethu iMatabeleland inye futhi ngeyethu sonke ngakho kumele sibambaneni silweni lomuntu oza lobandlululo .UmKhalanga lo m[Some people] ngokubona kwami ngabantu banye ngoba vele sesakhelene

  • mpandeyamadoda

    07 May 2015 at 16:19hrs

    This (some people) makes everything sour. ln mat'land and midlands we are one nation. Only these new historians are trying to devide us

  • Ayihlomihlasele

    07 May 2015 at 16:12hrs

    @Godifiri i guess you know the difference between a state and a nation? As well as a nation-state and a state-nation? those are basic concepts to understand the debate. If people are throwing terms haphazadly its difficult to have an informed discussion

  • Tamajasana

    07 May 2015 at 16:08hrs

    Those who speak [Some people] are concentrated in a circle around Bulawayo, with Shona-speaking peoples beyond them on all sides—the Kalanga (Western Shona) to the southwest, the Karanga to the east around Nyanda (formerly Fort Victoria), the Zezuru to the northeast, and the Rozwi and Tonga to the north. Generations of intermarriage have to a degree blurred the linguistic division between the [Some people] and [Some people] peoples.

  • URoYi Litshona lothuvi

    07 May 2015 at 16:03hrs

    kahambe kubo ayeqale amadisikhashini akhe noyise umgabhe sikhathele ngamaikhugurawundi axega abantu bakithi, inde yini wena uyi, uze ubengaka ubungazi ukuthi indleebele yini? Stop being in denial abantu bakathwakazi babembene ngeke behlukaniswe yimibuzo yet[Some people] elilephelele ngumphako. Hambo uyofa mthengisi ndini!,,

  • Anonymous user

    07 May 2015 at 15:56hrs

    Can someone tell me where did shonas come from , why did chigwedere the then education minister in early 80s changed history , who built great Zimbabwe ?

  • Anonymous user

    07 May 2015 at 15:52hrs

    Kalanga is not [Some people]

  • MANJE WHY UKHIPA ITRIBE YETHU INDEBE& UFAKA USOME PEOPLE AMANYE UYAWEKELA??? USJWAYELA KABI UYAZI

    07 May 2015 at 15:47hrs

    uyazi umuntu.

  • Godfrey

    07 May 2015 at 15:47hrs

    [Some people] state it,s a [Some people] state . Plize don,t mix venda ,tonga,sotho

  • Mrozvi mkuru

    07 May 2015 at 15:45hrs

    What most people fail to understand is that kalanga is very closely related to shona. The major difference is the use of later L and R . Kalanga a.k.a (Western shona)

  • Simayedwa.

    07 May 2015 at 15:44hrs

    Bayethe ! Mzilikazi kaMatshobana.sizwe sika Mthwakazi , Laf'elihle...( let's focus on building our Land Zimbabwe & stop this Nonsense )

  • Amanye ama Topics uyazi

    07 May 2015 at 15:44hrs

    iNdebengumuntu, overall sonke singabantu

    abadalwe ngomfanekiso kaThixo siyafana.

    singabandlululani.bantu bakithi kubi buzani eRWANDA.

    Kwafa abantu ngemibuzo engela ngqondo enje!

  • Silindimpi Dube

    07 May 2015 at 15:40hrs

    You asked us what is a [Some people] but when we use the same conceptualisation you remove the term . What kind of absudity is that? You should have phrased asked : What is the difference between[some people ] and [some people] ? If you didnot want to upset your handlers by talking about [some people] Its self defeating to have a discussion where the subject of discussion is reffered as [some people without indentity]

  • Uyazi amanye amaTopics

    07 May 2015 at 15:36hrs

    i[Some people]ee ngumuntu, overall sonke singabantu abadalwe ngomfanekiso kaThixo siyafana. singabandlululani.bantu bakithi kubi buzani eRWANDA. Kwafa abantu ngemibuzo engela ngqondo enje!

  • Ayihlomihlasele

    07 May 2015 at 15:28hrs

    The [Some people] is a nation comprised of different ethnic groups thay is Kalanga, Lozi, Tswana, Sotho, Venda , Abathwa, Tonga and the Nguni groups. In otherwords it is a multi-ethnic nation.

  • king Mabhogo

    07 May 2015 at 15:26hrs

    [Some people] is a tribe that forms Nguni people.back in the days they where led by Mzilikazi who rebelled & fled Shaka.Along the way Mzilikazi conquered & formed his own kingdom mainly [Some people] & settled @ Matabeleland in Zimbabwe

  • king Mabhogo

    07 May 2015 at 15:22hrs

    [Some people] is a tribe that forms Nguni people.back in the days they where led by Mzilikazi who rebelled & fled Shaka.Along the way Mzilikazi conquered & formed his own kingdom mainly [Some people] & settled @ Matabeleland in Zimbabwe

  • Thembani

    07 May 2015 at 14:13hrs

    [Some people] people were composed of three groups,AbeNguni originally from South Africa, the ruling class, Abenhla these were the Sotho and other raided small tribes, and Amahole, these were the [Some people] speaking people, the weaker ones ,they were made to work for the King and pay tribute. The Kalanga, Tonga, Venda, are part of Ma[Some people], under abenhla. It is very wrong for a leader of great nation like ours to utter such words, They must be condemned and l believe it's more than the word Kalanga, nobody can point such a small group of people. If they were that capable, they would have brought a change in Zimbabwe using such force.

  • Mwelase.

    07 May 2015 at 14:02hrs

    To my understanding , [Some people] is a umbrella name for people who were' led by king Mzilikazi ,but I would like to encourage all Zimbabweans to unite as one nation & build our country ; pointing fingers won't take us anywhere that will trigger violence among ourselves.. Asimambaneni

  • mpandeyamadoda

    07 May 2015 at 13:36hrs

    All tribes that fell under the Kingdom of Mzilikazi are [Some people]s. But i think such discussions, will in future destroy that pride and unity. Shonas have never raised their identities thats why they will always conquer us under their brand.

  • Sukoluhle Ndebele

    07 May 2015 at 13:19hrs

    [Some people] is a persom of Mat North and South ,the Midlands, speaking [Some people] and believing everything that makes for a [Some people] identity

  • Sukoluhle Ndabele

    07 May 2015 at 13:17hrs

    [Some people] is a person of Kalanga, Karanga, Venda, Sotho, Nyubi, Nambya, Tonga, Lemba, Shona, European, extraction speaking Ndele and believing in customs, traditions, mores, rites, of the [Some people] - having suffered under the genocide of the 5 Brigade and identified as dissident or dissident supporter.

  • Musa

    07 May 2015 at 13:11hrs

    Mina I actually I didn't such a tribe ever existed until that day when Mugabe spoke about them, cuz I hve never heard anyone admit openly that there are Kalanga. It seems there are shy of who there are.

  • Patriot

    07 May 2015 at 12:45hrs

    Ama[Some people] are a mixture of tribes(Nguni, Xhosa and Sotho) brought from SA by King Mzilikazi and the tribes that were already here which iclude the Kalanga, Venda, Tonga etc. Infact the [Some people] are the tribes that occupy the Southern and Western parts of Zimbabwe

  • Nqobeni

    07 May 2015 at 12:43hrs

    In Zimbabwe a [Some people] is all Nguni speaking people if u look in South Africa all Zimbabweans are called Khalangas nevemind u are a Venda , [Some people] or [Some people]

  • njabulo

    07 May 2015 at 12:37hrs

    [Some people] is an umbrella name of the tribes that were under King Mzilikazi's Kingdom , like [Some people] they are different tribes but united as Shonas under their King Mugabe

  • sikhumbuzo

    07 May 2015 at 12:36hrs

    mpela lizamani , umuntu ngu muntu

  • Ntwabe

    07 May 2015 at 12:32hrs

    One who identifies with any of all other tribes as mentioned by paternal lineage is, of course, not [Some people]

  • Rob

    07 May 2015 at 12:32hrs

    [Some people] is a mix between all the tribes that King Mzilikazi find them inside Zimbabwe during those days,then the King call everyone a [Some people] ,running away from this Mugabephobia.

  • Moyo Roy

    07 May 2015 at 12:25hrs

    Lets Discuss!

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