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Miracle money, babies, weight loss - is this all done for God? - Live Discussion

by Moyo Roy
18 Feb 2013 at 09:49hrs | Views
I  have heard a lot of people complaining about miracles and strange things happening in Zimbabwe lately, so I took the liberty to watch and listen to some of these preachings on YouTube, some of them are as long a 5hrs 14mins.

There was is one video clip of a prophet Eubert Angel telling a congregation in SA that blessed is the hand that gives... he goes on to say those who give don't just give out money but a demon of poverty as well. People then start to give out their hard earned money like they is no tomorrow: (Video Clip).



Not forgetting that one (video clip) where women loss 30kg in 30secs - yet their body shapes remind the same.

Are these people doing this for God or Money?

  • Admin

    18 Feb 2013 at 22:03hrs

    Thank you all for taking part in this discussion. This Live Update has been closed but you can still comment at the bottom.

  • John tivatyi

    18 Feb 2013 at 21:16hrs

    If you do not know the word of god, silence is better than commenting what you have no proof. If that turns out to be true, how wil you answer the accusation that you are the preacher of falsehood who attack god's massengers. Already some of you change the scriptures in ful hearing of everyone yet nobody complain. Do you know, the people which the bible in mathew 21 say shal move mountains are actually believers who wld do this if they doubt in their heart. Not false profets. Shame on you heresy preachers. You have never read half a chapter by yourself yet you say i know. The christ whom you falsely speak on his behalf knew the scripture. He loved the father's word more than choice food. Are you not the opposite, i'm just asking

  • Prospect

    18 Feb 2013 at 20:40hrs

    They is nothing called miracle money,these prophets they ae just like magicians they trick people to make money.The Word of God says tym wil come to pass,at the end of tym they wil be false prophets,who wil have power to command a mountain to move to wherever he wants it.like the likes of you may mantion a few.What The Word of God said today we see it with our naked eyes, we touch it with our bare hand,we walk for them with our bare foot,May the Lord help us let go ofself and hold on to Him

  • Mahlanza

    18 Feb 2013 at 20:14hrs

    Its all fake,.people are so lost in such way that if u see the light they think you are crazy.All they do is walk in the dark.

  • Anonymous user

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:43hrs

    I do not meddle with the Devine

  • Mdu

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:27hrs

    with the below indicators we should be asking ourselves if prophets we have to today of the likes of Angel and Makandiwa do they fit the bill.

  • Mdu

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:26hrs

    Here is the last 5 though they are many more verses in the bible that are indicators of true prophets;

    He edifies the church (1 Corinthians 14:3, 4).
    His message harmonizes with the Bible (Isaiah.
    8:20)
    He teaches that Jesus came in the flesh (1 John.
    4:1-3)
    He has a Christian character (Matthew 7:16-20).
    He is obedient to the will of God (Deuteronomy.
    18:18)

  • Mdu

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:24hrs

    The Bible provides 10 key indicators that
    determine whether a person is truly receiving
    visions from God.
    Here are the first 5;
    A true prophet’s predictions will “come to.
    pass” (Jeremiah 28:9).
    He will glorify God rather than himself (John
    16:13)
    He does not give his own private interpretation
    (2 Peter 1:20, 21)
    He points out sin (Micah 3:5-8)
    He warns of coming judgment (Isaiah 24:20, 21)

  • Wendy

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:19hrs

    Well the bible says we must not judge its true and at the same time its says when the world is coming to the end watch out of false prophets.I think these are the last days and its part of the signs.Lets watch out .

  • Tevin magutshwa

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:10hrs

    I think it's beta 2 keep queit than 2 judge.Most of thoz who judge ANGEL its bcoz their own pastors cant per4 lyk him.pple 1st see the annointng in the person judgng Angel.

  • Njalo

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:05hrs

    People get the leaders( and must I add Prophets) they deserve. Read Romans 1, God has handed people over to their own deceitful lust, meanwhile the likes of Angel and Makandiwa may as well enjoy their heaven on earth coz that's all the heaven they'll get. They do what they do coz there's no fear of God.

  • mudziwedombo

    18 Feb 2013 at 19:04hrs

    These lying prophets and prophetess need to be stopped as soon as possible before they start moving mountains.They are not preaching the word of God for the pple to be saved but are concentrating more on miracles.We need these pple to help change the behaviour of those sinning and not just give them money

  • Soko Murewha

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:43hrs

    People lets not be afraid to call a thief by its colours. Ma Conmen chete chete apa. Bennie Hinn was eventually exposed and yet these crooks are doing the very same tricks in Zimba. Shame on them!! just watch any Bennie Hinn "perfomance", same same na Makandiwa.

  • sotsha mafu

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:37hrs

    Remember he z a jealous God,plz stop irritating God by this fejafeja,money z the source of evil in bible then wu z this 2 promote t!worse in Zim,lasha igomora,finish@ list its not done by Ndebele nation

  • MbM

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:37hrs

    Those are healing for free are the children of God,god sent them to help n heall his children through his children but once money be more involved then satan started to enter in the position that supposed to taken by god, i beleave in those a helping people n people get helped the miracles always happened even jesus did,

    my question is who should be sent by God?

  • tool

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:11hrs

    I have saw on teaching on youtube when he said Jehovah chikopokopo.

  • tool

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:07hrs

    by their fruits you shall know them, the word of God says. what profit a man to win the world and loose his soul. I am so happy becaz the word of God is coming to pass. read matthew 24. if you take a good look at Jesus teachings He was more on repentnce, salvation and He is the one who said its easy for a camel to enter through a needle than a richman to enter into the kingdom of God. But they are after the riches. Read your bible you will have all the answers.

  • Dumisani Mpala

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:01hrs

    These are signs of the times,why these prophets concetrate on issues which are not vital to e pple like,weight loss,if they really powers of God they must visit hospitals especially children's wards,vanoti mwari waningi,how can we pray God of someone

  • Dumisani Mpala

    18 Feb 2013 at 17:00hrs

    These are signs of the times,why these prophets concetrate on issues which are not vital to e pple like,weight loss,if they really powers of God they must visit hospitals especially children's wards,vanoti mwari waningi,how can we pray God of someone

  • Kudakwashe Murima

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:31hrs

    Nice one Roy (topic)
    Well, I think we should not be quick to judge them, coz we will also be judged. If one does not believe in such miracles its better you do so quietly. To answer your question, I think only time will tell. Things of God last because God is everlasting and if they are for money, money will get finished together with them.

  • Child of god

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:23hrs

    When are they going to preach salvation ? Its all about money money .Yes the church needs funding to function smoothly but it cant be the main sermon of the day .Surely a lot of people come because they want to live a complete life and have eternal life afterwards.Mari mari .Mabenz nema Bentley ivo vanamati vachitambudzika ??

  • Child of god

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:19hrs

    If they are coming from God why call vanhu vana vemuporofita ,Why not call them Vana vamwari ike Jehovah wants . Cant you its the devils tricks . Are you sure we read the same Bible?Jehovah said"If My CHILDREN who are called by my NAME call unto me I will hear them ." Iwe unoda kunzi mwana wamuporofita?!! Seriously ?!!Wamakanzwa achinzi mwana waMoses kanaEzekiel kana Jeremiah ndiani mushoko ratinoverenga tese.

  • Masangu.

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:15hrs

    These are the signz of tym .

  • tale

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:09hrs

    I think these miracles are from God!let's not insult them coz at the end you will ralize that u have insulted the real Men Of God.lyke wise the Jewa crucified jesus and later realised that he was from God! The Lord has got an answer for us so becarefull of what u say

  • Denver

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:07hrs

    Most of these are doing it for money, even the bible says many will come claiming to be the Messiah & even move mountains. These prophets are taking advantage of the poor masses who are desperate for material things, some are asked to give even the little they have for them to see miracles in their lives. If this is genuine why do they not perform the miracles in hospitals where people are dying of HIV-AIDS related diseases and even raise the dead? Most prophets from the bible where preaching about social injustices, but um still to hear any of our new crop of prophets rebuking the current rulers about bad governance and corruption. I think most of there miracles are just stage managed. Why didnt they command the rains to come when thousands of livestock was dying of drought in Mat South, jus like what true prophets like Elijah did.

  • Mwana wamwari

    18 Feb 2013 at 16:07hrs

    Why is this all about money ?Ko shoko rinoponesa vachaparidza rini? Ko hama dzavo vanodzipa this much here ? Where is the foundation of this Spiritual father,son thing ? I can bet you its not the bible .Only Jesus had a spiritual father and an earthly one ,he was God anyway .Anyway Jehovah defends himself .

  • owen

    18 Feb 2013 at 15:52hrs

    It is just for money

  • Artwell

    18 Feb 2013 at 15:22hrs

    E bible says seek ye first e kingdom of god... & all wil b aded unto u. My question z dat, are all these pple r'cvin these miracles right wth god? If not, from whom r e blesings & miracles comin from? God help Zimbabwe.

  • Ndaba Ndatshi

    18 Feb 2013 at 15:16hrs

    If these are God's given miracles wy cant they go to the hospitals and heal the sick,these are Satanic given powers there s nothing like that!

  • stanzo

    18 Feb 2013 at 15:02hrs

    Test them if u want to know if they are doing it for God or for money,the word of God says u must test the prophets some will come preaching the gospel but with motive behind,for us to c if its for God we must check if people are now picking gold without panning it,if that is happening those prophets are doing the good job Jesus dead for

  • Collen mbiwabo moyo

    18 Feb 2013 at 15:00hrs

    Hope all that is being done will be in God's image,rather than using black magic to please the world!

    ....seek ye his Kingdom first!

  • PraytothelivingGod

    18 Feb 2013 at 14:55hrs

    even those giant Demons can perform miracles,casting out small evil spirits.....pple of God PRAY.

  • PraytothelivingGod

    18 Feb 2013 at 14:51hrs

    yeah neh !!!....these miracles !!!....only God knows.

  • Thuba

    18 Feb 2013 at 14:50hrs

    Any one who is a christian quote JESUS ; WORDS LET ALL GROW WE WILL SEE WHEN HARVEST TIME COMES;

  • Moyo Roy

    18 Feb 2013 at 14:43hrs

    Lets Discuss!